What is Bush up to?

Posted: July 24, 2007 in All, Blogroll, politics, War

Can anyone please explain to me what in the hell this means?  I saw it on rosie.com, looked it up myself.  If it means what I think it means, we need to be afraid.  I just finished reading the final Harry Potter book.  This sounds a lot like that.  WTF!?

 Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq

 

     Fact sheet Message to the Congress of the United States Regarding International Emergency Economic Powers Act

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term “person” means an individual or entity;

(b) the term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization; and

(c) the term “United States person” means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States.

Sec. 4. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)) by, to, or for the benefit of, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, and I hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.

Sec. 5. For those persons whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order who might have a constitutional presence in the United States, I find that, because of the ability to transfer funds or other assets instantaneously, prior notice to such persons of measures to be taken pursuant to this order would render these measures ineffectual. I therefore determine that for these measures to be effective in addressing the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 and expanded in Executive Order 13315, there need be no prior notice of a listing or determination made pursuant to section 1(a) of this order.

Sec. 6. The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to the President by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government, consistent with applicable law. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order and, where appropriate, to advise the Secretary of the Treasury in a timely manner of the measures taken.

Sec. 7. Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses, or other forms of administrative action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under 31 C.F.R. chapter V, except as expressly terminated, modified, or suspended by or pursuant to this order.

Sec. 8. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit, or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, instrumentalities, or entities, its officers or employees, or any other person.

GEORGE W. BUSH

THE WHITE HOUSE,

July 17, 2007.

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Comments
  1. daredevil92103 says:

    basically a way to take away the right to dissent.
    vague enough that when sen. clinton asked if we had a plan to get the troops out of Iraq, they said she was aiding enemy propaganda that we are going to abandon our Iraqi allies, much like we were percieved as doing in vietnam, etc.
    crazy violation of about 3 or 4 of our rights.

  2. smrtas1 says:

    It basically says that if you commit violent acts to undermine the security of Iraq or provide matterial, financial, logistical, technical, etc… support to people commint violence against the security of Iraq, you are in trouble.

    You can also not act on behalf of such a person by helping them circumvent the blocking of property or interests.

    So you can continue to bash the war, the president, america or whatever without fear.

    Many people want you to believe that it is now illegal to speak out against the war, but the text of this order doesn’t support that.

  3. daredevil92103 says:

    i hope he’s right.

  4. Manymeez says:

    thanks for the comments daredevil and smrtas. The thing that bothers me about it is that the order leaves itself room to seize and arrest anyone that they not only have evidence against, but also only suspect. And the loop holes I suspect, would allow complete authority of the Bush administration to pretty much do whatever they want to anyone they view as a threat. So basically, someone like myself who has no power could probably say anything against the war I wanted, but if someone with power and influence rallied against the war, well, they could be viewed as a threat, and their constitutional rights could be stomped all over.

    In fact, this scares me so much, I wouldn’t be surprised if US citizens with influence started to disappear “mysteriously” or worse. People with influence or capable of rallying large amounts of people to fight against the war are probably more at risk than people like us…Unless we are able to rally a lot of people, which I’m not. But the shit of the thing is, not enough people are rallying, or it wouldn’t matter what orders or laws Bush breaks…because he would be impeached, Cheney would be impeached, and the sun could shine again. If only….

  5. Jeff S says:

    I’ve been working on this since 7/20 and believe that this is a Rove /Gonzales “scare the shit out of them” ploy, that is all too real. The interpretation is in the eye of the enforcer and no notification is required. Also, anyone who helps you with money, food,….or laywer who takes your case, they also lose everything. Welcome to America!

  6. Manymeez says:

    Thanks for the comment Jeff! You said you’ve been working on this? The order is written so vaguely and loosely, I’m a bit confused on what it is exactly you have to do in order for them to come after you. Can I just write a post saying how much I hate the war, or just a hold a sign in a protest on a public street….or do I have to go as far as give intel and/or money to the enemy for them to come after me? or would they come after someone who could influence thousands of Americans to rally against the war, but not someone like me who has an average of 100 or less readers a day? I think a lot of people are curious about what this order actually means. The media is not helping any. I don’t understand why they’re not covering this, and explaining to us exactly what it means. Then the average citizen would know whether it’s worth while “trying” to do something. Thanks again Jeff! Any information you could give that could point myself and the readers to would be appreciated.

  7. Palestar says:

    Compare the 2 – what do you all think – jeez louise…

    federalregister
    5077
    Wednesday
    January 25, 1995
    Part IX
    The President
    Executive Order 12947—Prohibiting
    Transactions With Terrorists Who
    Threaten To Disrupt the Middle East
    Peace Process

    Presidential Documents
    5079
    Federal Register
    Vol. 60, No. 16
    Wednesday, January 25, 1995
    Title 3—
    The President
    Executive Order 12947 of January 23, 1995
    Prohibiting Transactions With Terrorists Who Threaten To
    Disrupt the Middle East Peace Process
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency
    Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies
    Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United
    States Code,
    I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of America, find
    that grave acts of violence committed by foreign terrorists that disrupt the
    Middle East peace process constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat
    to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States,
    and hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
    I hereby order:
    Section 1. Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(3) and (4) of
    IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(3) and (4)) and in regulations, orders, directives,
    or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding
    any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the
    effective date: (a) all property and interests in property of:
    (i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order;
    (ii) foreign persons designated by the Secretary of State, in coordination
    with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Attorney General,
    because they are found:
    (A) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing,
    acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of disrupting the
    Middle East peace process, or
    (B) to assist in, sponsor, or provide financial, material, or technological
    support for, or services in support of, such acts of violence;
    and
    (iii) persons determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in coordination
    with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, to
    be owned or controlled by, or to act for or on behalf of, any
    of the foregoing persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter
    come within the United States, or that hereafter come within the
    possession or control of United States persons, are blocked;
    (b) any transaction or dealing by United States persons or within the
    United States in property or interests in property of the persons designated
    in or pursuant to this order is prohibited, including the making or receiving
    of any contribution of funds, goods, or services to or for the benefit of
    such persons;
    (c) any transaction by any United States person or within the United
    States that evades or avoids, or has the purpose of evading or avoiding,
    or attempts to violate, any of the prohibitions set forth in this order, is
    prohibited.
    Sec. 2. For the purposes of this order: (a) the term ‘‘person’’ means an
    individual or entity;
    (b) the term ‘‘entity’’ means a partnership, association, corporation, or
    other organization, group, or subgroup;
    5080 Federal Register / Vol. 60, No. 16 / Wednesday, January 25, 1995 / Presidential Documents
    (c) the term ‘‘United States person’’ means any United States citizen,
    permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United
    States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States;
    and
    (d) the term ‘‘foreign person’’ means any citizen or national of a foreign
    state (including any such individual who is also a citizen or national of
    the United States) or any entity not organized solely under the laws of
    the United States or existing solely in the United States, but does not
    include a foreign state.
    Sec. 3. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified
    in section 203(b)(2)(A) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)(A)) by United States
    persons to persons designated in or pursuant to this order would seriously
    impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in this
    order, and hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of
    this order.
    Sec. 4. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary
    of State and, as appropriate, the Attorney General, is hereby authorized
    to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations,
    and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA as may be necessary
    to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury
    may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of
    the United States Government. All agencies of the United States Government
    are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority
    to carry out the provisions of this order.
    (b) Any investigation emanating from a possible violation of this order,
    or of any license, order, or regulation issued pursuant to this order, shall
    first be coordinated with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and
    any matter involving evidence of a criminal violation shall be referred to
    the FBI for further investigation. The FBI shall timely notify the Department
    of the Treasury of any action it takes on such referrals.
    Sec. 5. Nothing contained in this order shall create any right or benefit,
    substantive or procedural, enforceable by any party against the United States,
    its agencies or instrumentalities, its officers or employees, or any other
    person.
    Sec. 6. (a) This order is effective at 12:01 a.m., eastern standard time on
    January 24, 1995.
    (b) This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in
    the Federal Register.

  8. smrtas1 says:

    Palestar, I have been posting that all day. They are pretty much the same. Everybody seems to think that this is some new thing, but Clinton did very similar acts.

    Again, this doesn’t say to arrest people, it freezes the assests here in the U.S.

    Manymeez – you would have to provide money, goods, logistics, technical support, etc… to people committing acts of violence or pose a significant risk of violence. So unless you are sending checks to Bin Laden, you can protest all you want.

    The media isn’t covering this as it isn’t an issue.

  9. Manymeez says:

    What I’m curious about is, if Clinton already put forth and passed this act, then why does it need to be put forth again? What are the differences that require it to be re-submitted?

  10. smrtas1 says:

    Clinton’s act was specific to the stability of the mid-east peace process. Bush’s is to the stability of the security of Iraq. They both address the same issues, but from two different areas, mid-east and Iraq.

  11. smrtas1 says:

    Oh, and you shouldn’t get your news from Rosie…. 🙂

  12. Manymeez says:

    Thanks for the info smrtas and palestar! That makes me feel a little bit better. When I first read it, I knew I just couldn’t be interpreting like I was intially. It still “appears” to have some loop holes, but I think it’s okay. Time will tell.

    And just as a btw…I can’t speak for everyone else, but I don’t get news from Rosie. What I do get from Rosie is a person who gives opinions that require one to think and do their own research. I in no shape, form or fashion think that Rosie is the authority of the news. What I appreciate about Rosie is, she doesn’t put her opinion out there as being fact…she puts her opinion out there with the intention of open interpretation. She asks only that you open your mind enough to ask questions. Now some of the people who respond on her blog, apparently do take everything she says as the definitive. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with reading her blog, and using her as a vessel of free thought. That is my intention on this blog. I put it out there, and then ask for anyone who reads it to just think about it, and contribute to the discussion of free thinking. I appreciate immensely those that contribute here, and create an atmosphere of not only learning, but thinking and maybe even feeling.

  13. Palestar says:

    I did not get it from Rosie either –

    I just knew Clinton had mandated one but as of yet – have not compared them – wanted to put it out for other opinions.

    Rosie gets her news from the same sources we do. :mrgreen:

  14. smrtas1 says:

    The original thread of this post is from Rosie.com. Rosie states that “bush outlaws all war protests”. It goes on to explain that you can no longer protest the war anymore in the US then has the text of the order The issue is that many people read that and are freaking out as I have seen in many posts like this blog.

    The don’t get your news from Rosie comment was for the owner of this blog.

    I just made a comment as many people take what she says as gospel. I can’t tell if it is her blind hatred of Bush that makes her not be able to read the document correctly (granted it is in lawyer speak) or if she just wants to lie to all her fans to sway people to her point of view.

  15. Palestar says:

    That was an insult to the owner of this blog – she and I – even Rosie get our sources from the same area – Rosie unlike Bush always tells people to research and to think for ourselves.
    I have always felt that questioning authority is a patriotic thing to do.

    Just because she posted that does not mean she attempting to lie and sway all to her point of view – feels like you are trying to sway us to your point of view and intimate the Ro is a liar. Ever think that she is mainly trying to get people to ask questions ? We do have that right…

  16. lawcrow says:

    smrtas1
    July 25th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
    “Oh, and you shouldn’t get your news from Rosie…. ”

    True; you can get it from me…I can make it very interesting….
    Sorry…Had to be sarcastic…

    LOVE YA GUYS!!

  17. smrtas1 says:

    I am not trying to sway you to my point of view, I am mearly pointing out that Rosie said “Bush outlaws all war protest” as the heading of her post.

    I am only pointing out that 1, that isn’t even close and 2, its all been done before.

    There are people who actually believe that Bush has outlawed all ware protests because they see headlines like that.

  18. lawcrow says:

    smrtas1 ~ I read the code, and I am well versed in the law overall. You are correct in the idea of a misleading headline. Overall; it was a sense of protest in many forms. Not the one that covered freedom of speech, but rather a transaction through finance and property.

    Good discussions……..
    Everyone has a different point of view!
    Cheers all…..

  19. unitedcats says:

    People have been worried about stuff like this since at least Nixon. It is a little alarming, and speaks poorly of Bush imho, but unless he actually starts arresting protesters under such pretexts I’m not too concerned. Frankly I think things like this are mostly more proof that the government has became way too bloated, since they have people sitting around writing up nonsense like this. Obvious proof they have too much time on their hands.

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